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November 16, 2007

SMGFAN.com's Exclusive Interview
with Sam Bauer

SOUTHLAND TALES Editor
© 2007 SMGFan.com

© Cherry Road Films

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JPM: How did you get started in the business?

Sam Bauer (SB): Richard and I got our start serving non fat mochas to euro trash commercial clients.

JPM: What exactly does a movie 'editor' do? The job sounds simple but I'm sure there's a lot more to it than most people think. How much freedom does an editor have?

SB: When you ask any editor what an editor does what follows is one of the most tedious exercises in prose. The Film Editor's job changes with every film and every writer /director. Each film has it's own unique virtues and flaws. I would say that only the great editors know how to turn the flaws into virtues.

Editor's are purposefully excluded from the production process, so they only see the shots as they were rendered either successfully or not. The fact that this shot took the whole day and it cost alot is not something I should even be aware of. The idea here is that there is an 'unteinted' person putting the film together.

After we edit the first draft which takes about three months, I also have a rough sense of the music and the sound design which help create the tones and the vibes that the film will eventually arc through. Sometimes music can be dangerous though. It can insulate and protect scenes that might not be absolutely necessary, throwing off the balance of the film. Film's need to have quiet contemplative moments that afford the audience that same pleasure.

As far as the freedom goes, the modern film maker has to contend with the abyss that freedom brings about. Freedom for an editor can be like writer's block. Film editor's and directors can be frozen in a state of freedom because the chaos of the material becomes to abstract and the options overwhelm us. It is this type of freedom that trains the Film Editor to keep their eye on the ball. It trains us to track all the pros and cons of all of the options so we will eventually converge on something. One has to become philosophical in this mode of editing in order to move forward.

So what kind of films have editorial freedom? Documentary films are like the Bow Flex machine for Film Editor's in training. The Editor will be forced to write a coherent screenplay on top of cutting the images together. The amount of work is massive and charachter building.

JPM: How did you get involved with SOUTHLAND TALES (ST)?

SB: After Richard and I edited Donnie Darko together, we wanted to maintain team integrity. So I was able to wiesel my way into editing Souhtland Tales.

JPM: What was the biggest challenge you faced in editing ST?

SB: Southland Tales is a futuristic ensemble piece that really worked us. There were parts of the story that were like concrete and there were parts that were like plastic, and there was everything in between. We had to establish cinematically, a new Southern California on top of introducing a multitude of characters.

JPM: The film's supporters welcomed the announcement that Sony had picked up the film for domestic distribution. Then the studio ordered a shorter cut of it. How much was cut? How difficult was this process and how did you, Richard (and company) decide which scenes to do away with?

SB: Obviously Sony's involvment with Southland Tales is great for us. The Producer Sean Mckittrick, Richard and myself work with Sony to decide what will be cut. It is always in the studio's best interest to let the film makers take their time out of a given film. Scenes that are cut are obviously not thrown away but placed in the Director's Cut.

JPM: You edited Donnie Darko as well. From my understanding, the distributor ordered a shorter version of that movie. What's the hardest thing about being 'forced' to re-edit?

SB: The only real lesson for any film maker about studios, and reedits, is that this is a process not a means to an end. A Good Film Maker is a patient one, recognizing the gears of imagination and creativity are always slow in order to turn well. Or patience is the grease for the gears of imagination. The film might not change much in its final stages but it does get better. We call this the journey of the final inch.

JPM: Do you have any memorable stories about working on ST that you'd like to share? What was the best thing about being part of the production?

SB: The best part of being on this production was the long arduous process resolving itself in a very unique final version of the film, that is funny, political, mysterious, and dramatic. It might be one of the most challenging films I will ever edit in my career.

JPM: Much has been written about the film's debut at the Cannes Film Festival. What can you say about the reaction there? Why do you think the critics (not all, mind you) reacted unfavourably to it?

SB: The Canness Film Festival was tough for me. I was hoping for some insights into our film. What we got were some random insights anchored by personal axe grinding. It is hard to ignore that these critiques did not address the actor's performances, the cinematography, the editing, i.e. the merits of any film etc. So ultimately the critic decides, do they want to report or do they want to grind their axe? Luckily the axe grinders and those who listen have dangerously short attention spans, so we will get our day in the sun and the nay sayers will be none the wiser..

As far as why the critics went that way, I don't know. The film as it left my editing room, had not ever been screened for a big audience, so I was bracing myself for the unknowns. At that point I was no longer objective so I can only say that like any artist before the unveiling, I was nervous.

JPM: Did you work/interact with Sarah at all? If so, was it like working with her?

SB: Unfotunately, Sarah and I did not get a chance to meet or work together and I have not had a chance to discuss the film with [her]. I hope she likes our final version.

JPM: Are you and Richard completely satisfied with this final version of ST? Fans are already eagerly anticipating the Director's Cut.

SB: I am very satisfied with the final version of SLT. Richard did alot of processing of back story after the film was shot, so integrating that info. into the film was difficult, but proved to be fruitful. The additional backstory seems to keep the audience more focused on the narrative and helps to pace the film up.

JPM: You're an editor and a composer. Are you interested in venturing into directing, writing or producing in the future?

SB: As a Film Maker I would do just about any project that interested me. I like things that inspire a little adrenaline and fear in me.

JPM: What advice would you give to people aspiring to work in the industry?

SB: Obviously the most important general thing I can say here is that making movies is a team game. But choose your team like you were interviewing people to protect you from snipers.

(Who isn't touting themselves as a 'producer' these days?)

It only takes like eight people to make the film from behind the camera. Your core creative group is the most important thing and chemistry is rare. So when you find a Sean Mckittrick, a Richard Kelly, a Ged Bauer, a Darren Roberts, a Patrick Barry, a David Esparza, a Stephen Poster, an Alec Hammond, and a Patrick Barry you know that they are the people that help you realize your talent and potential.

I love working with these guys and our sense of team seems instinctual.

JPM: Are you currently working on any projects?

SB: I am presently working on Richard Kelly's next film called "The Box".


SMGFAN.com would like to thank Sam Bauer for taking the time to answer our questions. We wish him all the best in his future endeavors.

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